‘religious’ Veena Arrives For Umrah

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Janaab Mufti sahib ! ghair Muslman ko bhi Masjid mein bulaya jana chahey ya nahi . pl. is topic par quraan o hadees k reference se guide ki ji a
 

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Bhai , hum ne logo ke character ka theka nahin liya hua. Dilon ko sirf Allah jaanta hai. Humen kisi per point nahin kerna chaahiye, balke kehna chaahiye, Allah hidayat de aru Islam ki samajh de. Agar koi ghalti kerta hai to us pyar kiyya jaata hai aur samjhaya jaata hai, naake us per bherkna chaahiye. Wo insaan Islam se bhaag jaata hai.

Veena kaafi molvion ne is se budtameezi ki aur wo un se chirr gayee, matlab kaam theek hone ki bajaaye aur bher gya. Behter tareeka Islam ki terf laane ka. Maulana Tariq Jameel ka hai, Yahan tak ker unhon ne bichari naachne waalion se baat ki, actors se baat ki, drama walion se baat ki, bhale pure islamic tareeke se.

Paksitan ke molvion ne theka liya hai Islam k. ek khoobsurat deen hai logon ne berbaad kerdiya, zaban se. Her kisi per ungli k is ko pata ho islam, us ko kya pata islam ka. Sab ghalat hai. Islam sikhata hai ikhlaq aur muhabbat. Sirf yehi cheez logo ko islam ki terf bulaati hai.

Sakhti Logon ko bhaga deti hai. Allah ne fermaya

Quran 2:256
دین کے معاملے میں زبردستی نہیں ہے

Quran 4:171
اے اہِل کتاب تم اپنے دین میں حد سے نہ نکلو

Phir Allah Tallah ne fermaya

Quran 88:21
پس آپ نصیحت کیجئے بے شک آپ تو نصیحت کرنے والے ہیں (۲۱) آپ ان پر کوئی داروغہ نہیں ہیں (۲۲

Allah ferma rahe hein, hamaara kaam sada lagana hai paigham pohanchana, un per sawar nahin hona k phiss jaayen yaan bhaag jaayen. Some molvies in pakistan directly tanqeed kerte hein saamne wala bhaag jaata hai. kyonke in hon ne islam theka liya hua hai.

Islam ek azaad deen hai zabardasti se nahin kabool hota lekin jis ke dil mein Allah daale

Insaan ko ek free will mili hai aur Allah ne dono raatse ke result bhi bata diye, phir bhi Allah ne fermaya insaan ki merzi hai wo koi raasta bhi chunn le.

Allah fermata hai her insaan se. ek tera raasta (nafs ki perwi, khud ki mann maani kerna, apni merzi se zindgi guzzaarna) hai aur ek mera raasta hai, jis ke raaste mein kaante hein , lekin kaanton ke baad hamesha keliye falah hai.

Quran 18:29
(یہ دین حق) تمہارے رب کی طرف سے (آیا) ہے سو جس کا جی چاہے ایمان لے آوے اور جس کا جی چاہے کافر رہے


Quran 7:178
جسے الله تعالیٰ ہدایت دے وہی راہ پاتا ہے اور جسے گمراہ کر دےپس وہی لوگ نقصان اٹھانے والے ہیں (۱۷۸)

Quran 7:186
جسے الله گمراہ کر دے اسے کوئی راہ دکھانے والا نہیں اور انہیں الله چھوڑ دیتا ہے کہ اپنی سرکشی میں حیران پھیر یں (۱۸۶)

Aur jo insaan Allah ka rasta kabool nahin kerta, apni merzi zindgi guzaarna chaahta hai, Allah usse ussi ek haal per chor dete hein. Ek insaan hota usse ki zroorat hoti hai her lamha, ek insaan sochta hai, apni merzi kerna chaahta hoon.

Koi nahin jaanta sawaye Allah ke, yeh kyon gayee hai, Allah keliye yan duniya keliye, kisi ilm per dawah kerna shirk hai, jis ka hamen ilm nahin. Only Allah Knows.

Hamara kaam hai Allah se dua kerna, Allah hidayat dede, taake is ke dil mein Allah aur Rasool ki muhabbat peda ho, Ameen

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Assalaam O Alaikum,

Praise Be To Allah

It is good they are spreading Islam, but we have to realize also it is according to Sunnah and that is more important because any act of worship is practiced, if it is contradicting Quran and Sunnah, will simply be rejected.

The definition of Bidah is, if a person pray Tahajjud whole night, but it is not according to Sunnah, it will be rejected. Similarly, when anyone preach Islam we must make sure, it is Quran in their hand that they are preaching not any other books.

Our duty is to spread the education of Quran and Sunnah because it is pure from errors and mistakes. The books other than Quran are written by known people, with unknown stories, unknown miracles, false stories, fabricated stories. Other books carry much corrupted material that are dangerousfor illetrate, uneducated mind, similar to kind innocent without knowledge. The books are dangerous for those who doesnt have knowledge of Islam. Shaitan can easily deceive them putting positive remarks about the books in the heart and then he will make him eddicted to the books, and make him to adhered to these books. There will be a moment come, when a person forgets that, He left the original book of Allah long time ago and what is he doing and reading what. It is not a book of Allah.

If you know there was a scholar of Bible, he said

THE MOST DANGEROUS BOOK ON EARTH “ (the Bible), KEEP IT UNDER LOCK AND KEY.”
Keep the Bible out of your children’s reach.

The reason he said that, was that, he knew the bible has corrupted material that is not real, it includes fornications, adultry, sexual relations etc. Ofcourse Allah would never use a type of language in holybook.

Similarly any books other than Quran are corrupted, with false stories, fabricated miracles of auliyas.

Think about it, take your own example, when you read any miracle or karamat of any Wali or peer or buzurg? do you say, woww, ofcourse you do, becasue naturaly shaitan offers soemthing to human which naturally they like it and they like to read more similar types.

Then shaitan makes you use to it, to read more and more, then a time comes when the Quran left behind long ago and stuck in reading false materials. My duty or any scholar's duty is to stop people from reading these bokos which effects brain.

No reality in the books, according to the Ameers of the Jamat is, we use these stories to make people do Ibaadah? Did the prophet use this way? to call people to Allah? No

Quran 33:70
اے ایمان والو الله سے ڈرو اور ٹھیک بات کیا کرو (۷۰)

Quran 4:171

اے اہل کتاب اپنے دین (کی بات) میں حد سے نہ بڑھو اور خدا کے بارے میں حق کے سوا کچھ نہ کہو۔

Shaitan, dokhay se her insaan ko naik to bana raha hai, lekin saath hi Bidat se saari naiki bhi berbaad kerwa raha hai aur un ko pata bhi nahi,

Aap khud in ki kitaben perhen aur research karen aur sahih ahadith se match karen. you will not find any reality but false and lies. Kya hamara Islam sikhata hai waliyo ki kahanian sunana aur buzurgon ki karamaat batana yaan peer ki karamaat batanaa.

Yaan phir Allah aur Rasool ka pata batana? aap khud fesla karen
Kya logon ko Quran aur Hadith taleem batayen yaan in auliya ki kitabonke wakiyaat sunaaye.

Shaitan itna smart hai, us ko pata hai, insaan behud bewakoof hai, esi baaten sun ker per ker khush hotahai. Shaitan ek insaan ko chunta hai pana jhoot phelaane keliye, phir us bewakoof ko use kerke poore market mein apna jhoot phelaata hai.

Main ne baat ki thi, nermi se deen ki terf bulana naake sakhti se aur tanz se.

And Allah Knows Best

Saeed
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I agree some a tablighees make a lot of false story and miracles.. once i was with a tabliggee.. He put much butter in the story to convince people .. we shouldn't lie to people

میں کینیڈا میں رہتا ہوں- جس مسجد میں نماز پڑھتا ہوں اس پر کنٹرول تبلیغی جماعت والوں کا ہے- مجھے نہایت افسوس سے کہنا پڑتا ہے کہ یہ لوگ ضعیف احادیث بیان کرتے ہیں- جناب حضرت مولانا نے یا شاہ صاحب نے فرمایا کہہ کر قصٌہ اس طرح بیان کرتے ہیں لوگ سمجھتے ہیں کہ شاید یہی دین ہے-
ایسا بھی ہوا ہے کہ انھوں نے قرآن کی آیت پڑھی اور بیان اس کے برعکس کیا- وہ مفتی تھے اور جانتے ہوںگے کہ قرآن پر جھوٹ باندھنا کتنا بڑا گناہ ہے- جب میں نے اس پر کہا تو سب شرکاء ان کے ہم آواز نکلے- کسی کو اس بات کی پرواہ نہیں تھی کہ قرآن کیا کہہ رہا ہے- بس انھیں اپنے مولوی کو سپورٹ کرنا تھا-

آج ان سے وابستۃ لوگ سمجھتے ہیں کہ دین یہی ہے جو یہ بیان کررہے ہیں- افسوس کہ علماء حق چپ سادھے ہوئے یہ سب دیکھ رہے ہیں
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میں کینیڈا میں رہتا ہوں- جس مسجد میں نماز پڑھتا ہوں اس پر کنٹرول تبلیغی جماعت والوں کا ہے- مجھے نہایت افسوس سے کہنا پڑتا ہے کہ یہ لوگ ضعیف احادیث بیان کرتے ہیں- جناب حضرت مولانا نے یا شاہ صاحب نے فرمایا کہہ کر قصٌہ اس طرح بیان کرتے ہیں لوگ سمجھتے ہیں کہ شاید یہی دین ہے-
ایسا بھی ہوا ہے کہ انھوں نے قرآن کی آیت پڑھی اور بیان اس کے برعکس کیا- وہ مفتی تھے اور جانتے ہوںگے کہ قرآن پر جھوٹ باندھنا کتنا بڑا گناہ ہے- جب میں نے اس پر کہا تو سب شرکاء ان کے ہم آواز نکلے- کسی کو اس بات کی پرواہ نہیں تھی کہ قرآن کیا کہہ رہا ہے- بس انھیں اپنے مولوی کو سپورٹ کرنا تھا-

آج ان سے وابستۃ لوگ سمجھتے ہیں کہ دین یہی ہے جو یہ بیان کررہے ہیں- افسوس کہ علماء حق چپ سادھے ہوئے یہ سب دیکھ رہے ہیں
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In my views.... These people who lie to other to convince.... they are very feared by reading false and propganda books... like maut ka manzar etc ....There is so much fear in their heart thay even can't stop lying to other to convince other.. They think they are only savior of humanity.. and inorder to save other from Hellfire they think that lying is permitted... This happen only when people becomes extremist and deviated from true path... i often went to mosque for prayer controlled by tableeghi.. as you said above...The man who was head.. he forced people to listen his tableegh after prayer... and person who try to resist he got angry with him... and in the Daras false mircales and propganda story full of fear were told to the people.. imagine young people who are listening these people... what effect would bring these stories.. They are brainwashing camps..
 

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Its false misconception about shaitan on tabligh jamaat, to scare people and calling to Allah lying is OK, never prophet did that nor the sahaba nor tabaeen or tabaeen they just preach proper true education of quran and sunnah. maut ka manzir, and simjilar all books are fabricated not matching quran or hadith. SO who ever knows the truth he should preach and talk without fearing of others.

Among 20 people preaching tabligh jamat, but you the truth, and people are againsdt you, doesnt mean you are wrong. those 20 are wrong Because allah gave your understanding of deen than following blindly.
 
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Its false misconception about shaitan on tabligh jamaat, to scare people and calling to Allah lying is OK, never prophet did that nor the sahaba nor tabaeen or tabaeen they just preach proper true education of quran and sunnah. maut ka manzir, and simjilar all books are fabricated not matching quran or hadith. SO who ever knows the truth he should preach and talk without fearing of others.

Among 20 people preaching tabligh jamat, but you the truth, and people are againsdt you, doesnt mean you are wrong. those 20 are wrong Because allah gave your understanding of deen than following blindly.
muftee sahib.. what if some people convince from these lying stories and accept islam... what will become of liars.. will they be punished or rewared...
 

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If somone accept Islam thru this false, it is not the story teller or the stories, but it is only Allah, he can guide whome ever he wants thru anyone and anything even thru animal and insect also.

Lying 1% and 100% still called lie it doesnt become true after 50%.

They will still get sin no matter what, the sin is removed when some good deed is done more than the sin in weight. Tablighi Jamat followers are bringing people to Islam, but bad effect is that, people are getting eddicted to fadhail e amaal and other books. so who get sined, the person who asked others to have this book at home and read with family memebrs. what an ignoranceeeeeee. Leave a quran and tafsir aside and read thee books at home?

I have visited tabligh jamaaat many homes to lecture, and what i saw. 1-2 % authentic books rest, all library full of books written by maulanas and sufis and imams and scholars.

Thats how the religion is corrupted. Nomatter, how hard they try, they cant the hadith of Bid'ah

the Prophet was 100% right, ever innovation is misguidance and every misguidances will lead to hellfire regardless of "putting people to ibaadah"
 

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what about innocent people who believe in all these things as Islam... will they also go to hellfire with tablighee jamat.. or they will be given exception of ignorance... They are misguided by tablighees.. in my views they are innocent
 

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